Monday, April 13, 2015

Thwarting more misconceived contradictions of the Quran

 
Salam,
Below are given more claim by the disbelievers of contradictions of the Quran
 
Misconceived contradiction of the creation of man
What was man created from: blood, clay, dust, or nothing?1."Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood," (96:2). 2."We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape, (15:26). 3."The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was," (3:59). 4."But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?" (19:67, Yusuf Ali). Also, 52:35). 5."He has created man from a sperm-drop; and behold this same (man) becomes an open disputer! (16:4).
 
Refutation: It is God’s procedure when He created anything it is a process from nothing to something. Similarly when He created man in the beginning there was no human and He begins the process of creating man from nothing S19:67. He then created the elements essential for the creation of mankind which is clay (S15:26) mixed with water (S25:54) into mud molded into shape at S15:26. The sticky mud is turned into sperm (S36:77) and thus the process become clear as in Surah 22:5 O mankind! if ye have a doubt about the Resurrection, (consider) that We created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then out of a morsel of flesh, partly formed and partly unformed, in order that We may manifest (our power) to you; and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes, then (foster you) that ye may reach your age of full strength. And Allah gives us the things which we did not have before as stated: Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm, in order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), of Hearing and Sight (S76:2). There is therefore no contradiction in the Quran as it is a procedure of creation by Allah.
 
 
Misconceived contradiction on the compulsion of religion
Is there or is there not compulsion in religion according to the Qur'an? 1."Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things," (2:256). 2."And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith," (9:3). 3."But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful," (9:5). 4.Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued," (9:29).
 
Refutation: According to the Quran a Muslim who refused to pay the zakat is classified under the same category as the pagan as stated in the following verses: Say thou: "I am but a man like you: It is revealed to me by Inspiration, that your Allah is one Allah: so stand true to Him, and ask for His Forgiveness." And woe to those who join gods with Allah (Pagan), Those who practice not regular charity (zakat), and who even deny the Hereafter (S41:6-7).These category who did not pay the zakat were classified as pagans and until they pay the zakat war was declared upon them unless they repent by paying the zakat and establish regular prayers. Similarly the People of the Book they have to pay the Jizya which is the equivalent of the zakat paid by the Muslims at a standard rate of 1/5 or 20 percent of their income as stated:  And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire, a fifth share is assigned to Allah, and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing, the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things (S8:41). Repent here is referred to the due payment of zakat or jizya which were due to the authority which have to be settled. So this has nothing to do with freedom of religion but it is regarding on taxable income which is enforced on the whole community irrespective of one’s religion.
 
 
Misconceived contradiction of who was the first Muslim
The first Muslim was Muhammad? Abraham? Jacob? Moses?1."And I [Muhammad] am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam," (39:12). 2."When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! To Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." (7:143). 3."And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; "Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam," (2:132).
 
Refutation: In all the above verses mentioned it is not about who was the first to become a Muslim but it is more of a declaration that submission to Allah and to believe in Him is one’s most priority than anything else. To be the first is to be foremost or to put his best being a Muslim. This is shown Pharaoh’s sorcerers surrendered themselves to become Muslim they declared: "Only, our desire is that our Lord will forgive us our faults, that we may become foremost among the believers!" (S26:51). Thus there is no dispute to claim who is the first Muslim but rather a commitment to be of the foremost in believing in Allah and being a committed Muslim.
 
 
Misconceived contradiction of Allah forgiveness
Does Allah forgive or not forgive those who worship false gods? 1.Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed," (4:48).  Also 4:116. 2.The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: "Show us Allah in public," but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority," (4:153).
 
Refutation: Putting partners to God and worshipping other gods is two different things. Allah may forgive those who worshipped other gods maybe out of ignorance but when putting partners to God it is done deliberately with comprehension. The reason putting partners to God is the most heinous crime because the fabricator is giving authority that partners the same status of all the attributes of God the Al Mighty. This is blatantly unacceptable as the One and only God is described as follows: Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (S112). A clear example of putting partners to God is making Jesus as god as stated: They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah my Lord and your Lord" Whoever joins other gods with Allah, Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. (S5:72)
 
 
Below is an example of an actual debate how a misconceived contradiction is refuted:
Misconceived contradiction over how many surah God put a challenge to the disbelievers – is it S2:23 & 10:38 one surah or S11:13 ten surah
 
John said when we read 10:38, there is not mentioned that first Allah said that they must show 10 surahs. Furthermore 2:23-24 comes earlier than 11:13, so first Allah said they must give one surah and later Allah said they must give 10 surahs. To free thinking people, with a brain given by the Divine Creator of Heaven and Earth is a bit confusing.
 
Asar commented 2:23 is saying a surah like unto it meaning if you choose Surah Fath the Opening do your one surah like unto it write 7 verses. Similarly 10 surah you choose 10 from the Quran calculate the no of verses and do like unto it but the condition Allah impose, is that you get your help from others besides Him. I don’t see any contradiction.  You try one like the opening Surah and we will see if it is absolute without contradiction.
 
John said Asar, first we read in 2:23-24 they need one surah, second in 11:13 they need ten surahs and finally in 28:49 a complete book of 100+ surahs. It is getting more and more. The Qur'an verses are not in agreement with each other. How many surahs does an unbeliever need to provide? 1, 10 or 100+?
 
Asar replied it is situational 2:23 if the unbeliever were in doubt to what Allah has reveal He challenge them to bring a surah like unto it. 10:37 if the unbelievers say he forged it then bring a surah like unto it. But in 11:13 when they say he forged it Allah demand from the unbeliever ten surah that is forged in the Quran and they are to produce the like thereof. However your quote at S28:49 has nothing to do with challenging to produce many surah to form a book but to bring forward any book that they think can give better guidance than the two books of Allah’s. There is no contradiction you misapprehend the meaning of those verses.
 
John said thanks for the interesting reply. It is true that there are different situations in the verses. However the question remains why there is a difference in the quantity? In all situations it is about the fact that unbelievers don't believe in the Koran and from the event it is clear that the unbelievers also have a message. We still have the question why in 2:23-24 only one surah is enough, while in the others much more is needed. It would be logical and understandable to avoid any number; in that case there would not be any contradiction for a non-Muslim
 
Asar replied unbelievers should understand that the Quran came down in stages S17:106 a challenge to produce one surah may happen when the Quran was a book with three surahs and a challenge for ten surahs when the Quran was with 20 surahs. Only when it is a completed book a challenge was made to the whole nation of mankind and Jinns at S17:88 to produce the like of this book. The number is a test for those who seek to believe or disbelieve. Therefore there is no contradiction whether one surah or ten surahs is offered to be challenged it is situational.
 
Asar
 
 


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