Islam as Misunderstood by Christians

Salam,

 

The text below is a collection of subject matters about Islam that is misunderstood by non-Muslim especially the Christians. Below is a list of those misunderstood factors that is being put forward for us to ponder as they think nothing defies logic like Islam:-

 

 

The challenge that Muhammad did not claimed himself a Prophet

 

The Christians claimed Muslims ask them to show where Jesus claimed to be God in the Bible yet they cannot show you where Mohammed claimed to be a prophet from the Qur'an. Below is a verse in the Quran which proclaim Muhammad’s claim not only to be a messenger but also a Prophet of Allah:-

 

Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided." (7:158)

 

 

Islam claims Jesus is a prophet of Islam lower than Mohammed.

 

Islam never claim Jesus (Pbuh) is lower than Muhammad (Pbuh) in fact we are commanded to treat them equal and those who believe obey Allah’s command and there is reward from Allah for not differentiating among the messengers as stated:-

 

The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His messengers." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys." (2:285)

 

And those who believe in God and His Messengers and make no division between any of them, those -- We shall surely give them their wages; God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. (4:152)

 

 

Islam claims Jesus is a prophet of Islam lower than Mohammed yet the Quran states that Jesus was sinless but Mohammed was sinful.

 

The Quran teaches Muslims that messengers and prophets were human beings and human makes mistakes and they cannot avoid being sinful in their life time and proof that even Jesus sinned is not only stated in the Quran but also in the Bible as stated:-

 

Jesus incurred Allah’s anger when he said as stated In the Quran - Said Jesus the son of Mary: "O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us - for the first and the last of us - a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs)." Allah said: "I will send it down unto you: But if any of you after that resisteth faith, I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on any one among all the peoples." (5:114-115).

 

And the Bible also confirmed Jesus sinned because he scolded his mother as stated- And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage. And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, they have no wine. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? Mine hour is not yet come. His mother saith unto the servants, whatsoever he saith unto you, do it. (John 2:2-5).

 

By scolding the mother the Bible showed a bad example on Jesus as the Quran is very particular how a parent is to be treated:- Thy Lord hath decreed that ye worship none but Him, and that ye be kind to parents. Whether one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not to them a word of contempt, nor repel them, but address them in terms of honor.(17:23)

 

 

Jesus performed miracles but Mohammed performed none.

 

It is Allah’s prerogative to give miracles to whom He pleases and it is not a standard He imposed to show the status of the messenger but He commanded us to make no distinction among the messengers as the miracles is in His authority:-Ye they say: "Why are not Signs sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "The signs are indeed with Allah: and I am indeed a clear Warner." (29:50). And We refrain from sending the signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil). (17:59).

 

 

Jesus was taken alive to heaven but Mohammed died of food poisoning. Yet Muslims claimed Mohammed is greater.

 

According to the Quran Jesus is dead as he said it and there is no second coming:- "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! (19:33). And there is another evidence shown in the Quran that Jesus is dead as Muhammad is dead and will be resurrected only on the Day of Judgment. On that day Jesus said he was not a witness to Christians worshipping him as god or son of god and that is why he said as stated in the Quran:-"Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst cause me to die Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. (5:117).

 

If he is alive today and is coming to this world a second time he would have said in the Day of Judgment that he was a witness to billions of Christians worshipping him! He will not because he died before Christians worshipped him!

 

 

Islam says Allah is ONE yet Allah addresses himself as we.

 

This is a common language structure when God refer Himself as “We” it is a plural of authority and as an example when He says “For that We pour forth water in abundance (80:25) His angels will be doing the work and He gave the order! On the other hand when He refers Himself as God He will never say “We are your Lord” He will say “I am” as shown: “"Verily, I am Allah: There is no god but I: So serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise. (20:14)

 

 

Verses to ponder

 

Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance." Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah. Those to whom We have sent the Book study it as it should be studied: They are the ones that believe therein: Those who reject faith therein, the loss is their own. (2:120-121)

 

 

Asar



Christians claimed Quran at Surah 9:31 give deception and lie to Muslims about Christian’s belief.

 

Salam,

 

Many Christians claimed that Quran at Surah 9:31 give deception and lie to Muslims about Christian’s belief. They claimed they do take priests and anchorites as God.

 

The Quran at 9:31:

They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

 

For the information of Christians,  the Quran never lie about anything and it is telling the truth that Christians do take their priest and anchorites as lords in derogation of Allah. The Quran also provide proof of this statement from the Christian Bible itself. The verse (9:31) is broken into two fragments for easy reference and justification:-

 

The Quran says “They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary;”

 

Here for easy justification the example of the Jews is taken into account as they take Ezra as their priest and anchorite and thus take him as the son of God and the Christians do the same except that the Christians take Jesus as the son of God.

 

The example of the Jew in Ezra he was also called Ezra the Scribe and also Ezra the Priest. He was also authorized to teach as stated in the Bible: For Ezra had prepared his heart to seek the law of the LORD, and to do it, and to teach in Israel statutes and judgments (Ezra 7:10). Since he was a teacher they called him Rabbi and according to Jewish tradition a Rabbi is also known as the son of God and this is where the Quran says they take their priests and their anchorites to be their Lords in derogation of Allah. Similarly the Christian takes Christ the son of Mary as the Jew take Ezra as Rabbi and a Jew confirmed Jesus is also a Rabbi and according to Jewish tradition he is the son of God. The part of the Bible that confirmed a Jew declared Christ a Rabbi and son of God is as stated:-

 

Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. And Nathanael said unto him, can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee. Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel. (John1:45-49). So in the Bible the Jew confirmed a Rabbi is the son of God and a Rabbi is a teacher and a master which the Christians looked upon Jesus. So the Quran tell the truth of the Christians belief by giving evidences from the Bible itself.

 

In the part of the vcerse 9:31 the Quran also said “yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).”

 

Stated in the following are verses of the Bible commanding the Christians to worship one God: For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: (Exodus 34:14); And in another verse Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Luke 4:8)

 

Thus the accusation that the “Quran at Surah 9:31 give deception and lie to Muslims about Christian’s belief is unjustified as the Bible itself proved and confirmed that they do take their priests and anchorites in derogation of Allah.

 

Asar

 



A debate between Christian Chin and Asar on Quran is not true

Salam,

 

Below is the debate between Christian Chin and Asar on the Christian view that the Quran is not from God as it has many contradictions.

 

The Debate

 

Christian Chin said If the Quran is true, then Islam is false. Why? Because the Quran says to trust the Gospels, but the four Gospels contradict the Quran. This means the Quran can't be true if it says the gospel message is also true. In order to show this, I will quote several verses from the Quran. The more important ones are bolded for easy reference later. None can change Allah's words 6:34, 6:115, 18:27,

 

Asar replied the Quran never says without reservation that Gospels is true. The Gospel is true if you accept the Quran but you did not, here is an example: And when there came to them a messenger from Allah, confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the Book threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs, as if (it had been something) they did not know! (2:101)

 

 

Christian Chin said Moses was given the Torah 2:87, "We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride? Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!

 

Asar replied here again you rejected the Messenger Muhammad (Pbuh) whom you called an imposter and he brought message which you reject. How can you say the Quran says to trust the Gospel?

 

 

Christian Chin quoted the Quran  3:3, "It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)."  4:163, "We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms." 57:27, "Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our messengers: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of Allah; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors.

 

Asar replied look at the ending part of the verse “you did not foster” meaning most of you never nurture or cherish and many of you are rebellious transgressors. And you have the cheek to say the Qurans says to trust the Gospel and this is what you did before and now: Ye People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, of which ye are (Yourselves) witnesses? Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? (3:70-71)

 

 

Christian Chin The Quran said Christians should judge by what is in the Gospel

5:47, "Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel." The Quran confirms the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospels and guards them 5:48 To thee [the people of the gospel] We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute.

 

Asar replied The Quran at 5:48 …, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety.  Guarding it in safety means the Quran act as a quality control over previous scriptures it detects and exposes the Christian falsehood. Here is an inaccurate example of moral justice:

 

And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also. (Luke 6:29). Nobody in their minds will follow your Bible Clement Chin. This is what should be the truth in your book as stated in the Quran: We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers. (5:45)

 

 

Christian Chin said the Quran command the Muslims to ask Christians about spiritual things as stated: 10.94, "If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt."

 

Asar replied you see your brain is only concentrating on the phrase “then ask those who have been reading the Book before thee” but I am looking the bigger phrase of the verse “If thou were in doubt as to what We revealed unto thee (for Muslims no harm in asking those people of the Book just to check but but) the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: (The Quran) so be in no wise of those in doubt.! This is what the verse really meant not to doubt the Quran it is the only Truth. There is actually no need to ask the people of the Book

 

 

Christian Chin quoted verse of Quran: Curse on those who say God has a son 9:30, "The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

 

Asar replied this is true there is consequences in saying falsehood: They say: "Allah hath begotten a son!" - Glory be to Him! He is self-sufficient! His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have ye for this! Say ye about Allah what ye know not? Say: "Those who invent a lie against Allah will never prosper." A little enjoyment in this world! and then, to Us will be their return, then shall We make them taste the severest penalty for their blasphemies. (10:68-70)

Allah says not to associate Him with any sons or daughters.

 

 

Christian Chin said the Quran says Jesus was not crucified 4:157, "That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah"; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not." Alright, so we see that...None can change Allah's words (6:34; 6:115; 18:27); Jesus was given the gospel by Allah (57:27); The Quran confirms the Gospels (5:48) The Gospels contradict the Quran

 

So, if the Quran confirms the Gospels which say that Jesus was crucified (Matthew 27:26–31; Mark 15:15–20; Luke 23:32–34; John 19:17-18), and the Quran says Jesus was not crucified (Surah 4:157), then the Quran is false. But if it says the Gospels are false, then the Quran denies its own teaching and Islam is false.

 

Asar replied remember the Quran is guardian over previous scriptures it functions to expose those falsehoods in the Bible: confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety.(5:48). Guarding it in safety means the Quran act as a quality control over previous scriptures it detects and exposes the falsehood. And it says: Verily this Qur'an doth explain to the Children of Israel most of the matters in which they disagree.(27:76)

 

 

Christian Chin Objection: The gospel is not the written record, but the message that Jesus gave. This can't work because the Quran confirms the Torah, the Psalms, and the gospels (written records) that were around at the time of Muhammad. Surah 5:48 To thee [the people of the gospel] We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety.

 

Asar replied it makes no different to me you can being me any Bible whether it is the King James Version or Catholic Good News or Jehovah’s Witness New world translation of the Holy scriptures or any other Bible irrespective whether it is the one during the Prophet or the new version when you claimed it is your scripture then the Quran will fulfill its function to be “the Guardian over previous scriptures” The Quran detect and expose falsehoods and fabrications. Remember the word “guardian” in 5:48 has a huge function

 

 

Asar